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PostPosted: Thursday, 16.Apr.2015 19:58    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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Customer goodwill is often seen as the least important aspect of the bottom-line so while the notion of free/updated maps is a nice one - it's just not practical or sustainable as a business model.

I would like to see HERE remain as an updated product as it is a very capable navigation solution (IMO the best one) regardless of who buys it.


The initial decision was excellent despite it wasn't profitable. The strategy was the Nokia would have been gained an competitive advantage when then Nokia maps was bundled with their phones, and only their phones. An excellent sales argument. However, now when Nokia no longer produce phones then of course the benefit of Nokia maps is all gone.

The strategy was probably that money would flow from the increased sales of handsets to Nokia maps which I think makes a lot of sense.

I'm not sure if Google maps is profitable. Anyone know?
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They have a 66 BLN turnover and 14.4 BLN net profit. That is making a lot of money by doing no evil..... The EC doesnt seem to buy it any more.
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Windows Phone has the HERE suite essentially royalty-free

Which clearly shows where Nokia had been in that Nokia-Microsoft relationship under Elop et consortes. Let's not forget that Nokia was paying Microsoft royalties for every single copy of Windows Phone OS used in Nokia's Lumia phones (not just sold - usually below production cost - but manufactured), as a result of which Nokia became Microsoft's huge debtor. In exchange for that, they were providing HERE maps to ALL Windows Phone devices royalty-free.
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There are at least four possible bidders for Nokia's maps business, see Reuters. Excerpt:
    Nokia maps attract at least four possible bidders - Manager Magazin
    (Reuters) - Nokia's maps business has drawn interest from at least four potential acquirors, including Facebook and a consortium of German carmakers BMW, Audi and Daimler , a German magazine reported on Wednesday.

    Manager Magazin cited people familiar with the matter as saying local transportation service Uber is looking at the books of HERE, Nokia's mapping unit, and that U.S. private equity firm Hellman & Friedman is also interested.

    According to Manager Magazin, the book value of the unit is 2 billion euros ($2.15 billion).

    Nokia and Facebook declined to comment on the report. Uber, Hellman & Friedman, BMW, Audi and Daimler were not immediately available for comment.

    Finland's Nokia said last week it had started a strategic review of HERE after announcing a takeover of network equipment rival Alcatel-Lucent.
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German car makers are close to buy Nokia's maps business, see Reuters. Excerpt:
    German car makers close to clinching Nokia maps deal for $2.74-3.29 billion: sources
    Germany's premium car makers are close to a deal to buy Nokia's HERE map business for between 2.5 billion and 3 billion euros ($2.74 billion to $3.29 billion), but a final agreement hinges on the question of who owns the patents which help self-driving cars talk to mobile networks, two sources familiar with the deal told Reuters on Tuesday.

    The purchase of HERE, which has been valued at between 2 billion and 4 billion euros, could also require multi-year pledges to make further investments to improve map data quality. The deal is expected to be finalised by the end of July, if the two sides can settle the intellectual property issues, the two sources familiar with the transaction said.

    So-called connected and self-driving cars, linked to mobile phone networks, can perform intelligent functions such as recalculating a route if data about a traffic jam or an accident is transmitted to update the car's intelligent mapping system.

    So much real-time data is processed by self-driving cars to navigate successfully that telecom network infrastructure has emerged as a major component of connected cars, and as a sticking point in deal discussions, auto industry sources said.

    Self-driving and connected car services could evolve into a $50 billion market, analysts at Exane BNP Paribas say.

    A consortium of Daimler, parent of Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Volkswagen's (VOWG_p.DE) Audi division want outright ownership of all relevant patents owned by Nokia related to mapping, auto industry sources said.

    But the Finnish mobile network equipment maker is seeking to keep control of some patents for how mobile devices connect to networks, be they computers, phones or newer types of network-connected cars, industrial, corporate or agricultural equipment.

    Spokesmen for Nokia, Mercedes-Benz parent Daimler, BMW and Volkswagen's Audi declined to comment.

    One auto industry source told Reuters the car makers and Nokia needed this week to work out the remaining hurdles. An overall agreement by the end of the month was possible, but in no way guaranteed, the source said.
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PostPosted: Thursday, 23.Jul.2015 15:20    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Daimler cites security concerns as reason to buy Nokia's maps business, see Reuters. Excerpt:
    Daimler says hacking concerns drive Nokia maps bid
    Daimler (DAIG.DE) Chief Executive Dieter Zetsche said a desire to have better control over data security was one of the reasons Mercedes was bidding for Nokia's (NOK1V.HE) high-definition mapping business.

    In a call to discuss second-quarter results, Zetsche was asked whether he was concerned about hacker attacks on Mercedes-Benz cars.

    "You can see from reading the papers that we are trying to acquire a platform together with our German competitors, to gain control over the platform which enables autonomous driving, for exactly these reasons," Zetsche said.

    "We have the goal of designing security into the software."

    Zetsche said the carmakers would seek to make the software platform, available to third-party competitors.

    A bidding consortium consisiting of BMW (BMWG.DE), Volkswagen's (VOWG.DE) Audi and Mercedes is close to a deal to buy Nokia's HERE for between 2.5 billion and 3 billion euros ($2.74 billion to $3.29 billion), sources have told Reuters.

    But a final agreement hinges on the question of who owns the patents for the technology that helps self-driving cars talk to mobile networks, two sources familiar with the deal told Reuters on Tuesday.

    Earlier this week, a pair of veteran cybersecurity researchers showed they could use the Internet to turn off a car's engine as it drives, escalating the stakes in the debate about the safety of connected cars and trucks.

    High-definition digital maps help connected and self-driving cars can perform intelligent functions such as recalculating a route if data about a traffic jam or an accident is transmitted to update the car's intelligent mapping system.

    Self-driving cars use data gathered from vehicle radar and laser sensors and cross-reference this with information embedded in digital high-definition maps such as the location of traffic lights, lane markings or traffic jams up ahead.

    "As vehicles become more connected, more autonomous and less reliant on human-operated mechanical functions, the question of security will become more important and more frequent," Morgan Stanley analysts wrote in a note on Thursday.

    "We see the value of software and software content in the average car rising to around 60 percent over the next 15 years from less than 10 percent today."
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German carmakers buy Nokia's maps business, see Reuters. Excerpt:
    German carmakers buy Nokia maps to fend off digital rivals
    German carmakers BMW (BMWG.DE), Audi (VOWG.DE) and Mercedes (DAIG.DE), will pay around 2.5 billion euros ($2.8 billion) to buy Nokia's maps business, beating out high-tech rivals for location services seen as key to the future of self-driving cars.

    Germany's three premium carmakers joined forces and will hold equal stakes in the business, known as HERE, clubbing together to keep the assets from falling into the hands of Internet rivals in Silicon Valley or China.

    The deal has an enterprise value of 2.8 billion euros, including liabilities worth nearly 300 million euros, for which Nokia will compensate the carmakers, the Finnish company said on Monday. The transaction is likely to close in the first quarter of 2016.

    The deal allows the auto makers to offer new premium features, like autonomous driving, in their luxury cars, shaking up the pecking order between car makers, their parts suppliers and software rivals like Uber [UBER.UL], Google (GOOGL.O) or Apple (AAPL.O).

    "With the joint acquisition of HERE, we want to secure the independence of this central service for all vehicle manufacturers, suppliers and customers in other industries," said Chief Executive Dieter Zetsche of Daimler, which invented the motor car in 1886.

    But it is unclear how other HERE customers, including rival carmakers, may respond to Germany's carmakers owning map technology, which many in the auto, Internet and logistics industries see as key to their own strategies.

    "There is a risk that the other automakers will be pushed further into the arms of Google," said Richard Windsor an independent financial analyst who tracks major tech players.

    HERE's primary competitor is Google Maps.

    Intelligent mapping systems like HERE's are the basis on which self-driving cars linked to wireless networks can perform functions such as recalculating a route to the nearest electric charging station or around a traffic jam or accident.

    They are also used in everything from consumer smartphone navigation to local transport services.

    At a later stage, the carmakers will invite private equity firm General Atlantic to join the consortium as an investor and potential mediator, two sources familiar with the matter said. The size of the stake has not yet been decided but could be up to a third of the business.

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    HERE is the leading supplier of digital maps for most of the world's top carmakers, accounting for half its expected $1.1 billion revenues in 2015.

    It also supplies mapping services to Internet customers including Amazon (AMZN.O), Yahoo (YHOO.O) and Baidu (BIDU.O).

    In addition, it competes with smaller Dutch mapping firm TomTom (TOM2.AS), which has begun to retool its business to focus on carmakers rather than consumers.

    TomTom recently teamed up with Bosch [ROBG.UL], one of the world's top auto suppliers, to create an alternative platform to HERE for carmakers.

    HERE was created via the $8.1 billion acquisition of Navteq in 2008 by Nokia, which aimed to create consumer map services for mobile phone users but later switched to focus on carmakers. Nokia is now shedding its maps business as it integrates its purchase of telecom network equipment maker Alcatel Lucent (ALUA.PA).

    The Finnish company, which subsequently wrote down the value of HERE to around 2 billion euros, said it expected to book a gain on the sale to the carmakers, including cumulative foreign exchange translation differences, of around 1 billion euros.

    Mikko Ervasti, analyst at brokerage Evli, said the price was perhaps a bit lower than what some had speculated and could be seen as a "slight disappointment".

    Shares in Nokia slid 0.9 percent in morning trading, underperforming a flat European technology index .SX8P. TomTom shares jumped more than 5 percent.

    In bidding for HERE, the German carmakers appeared to use their status as key customers to fend off other bidders, said analyst Mikael Rautanen of Inderes Equity Research. "That is why the price was lower than initially expected," he said.

    Operating systems for self-driving vehicles, as well as services associated with autonomous driving such as car-sharing, recharging and parking services, may become money-spinners for carmakers seeking new business beyond manufacturing.

    Self-driving and connected car services could become a $50 billion market, analysts at Exane BNP Paribas have estimated.

    Andreas Tschiesner, head of McKinsey's automotive practice in Germany, said: "The automotive industry is facing a big disruption through connectivity and connected driving technologies. These features will become an important source of differentiation."
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Nokia sells HERE to automotive industry consortium, see press release. Excerpt:
    Nokia completes next stage of transformation with agreement to sell HERE to automotive industry consortium at an enterprise value of EUR 2.8 billion
    Nokia completes next stage of transformation with agreement to sell HERE to automotive industry consortium at an enterprise value of EUR 2.8 billion

    Espoo, Finland - Nokia today announced an agreement to sell its HERE digital mapping and location services business to a consortium of leading automotive companies, comprising AUDI AG, BMW Group and Daimler AG (the "Consortium"). The transaction values HERE at an enterprise value of EUR 2.8 billion with a normalized level of working capital and is expected to close in the first quarter of 2016, subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals. Upon closing, Nokia estimates that it will receive net proceeds of slightly above EUR 2.5 billion, as the purchaser would be compensated for certain defined liabilities of HERE currently expected to be slightly below EUR 300 million as part of the transaction. Nokia expects to book a gain on the sale and a related release of cumulative foreign exchange translation differences totaling approximately EUR 1 billion as a result of the transaction.

    In April 2015, Nokia announced a review of strategic options for HERE in light of its proposed combination with Alcatel-Lucent. The announcement of this sale to the Consortium concludes that strategic review process.

    Rajeev Suri, President and Chief Executive Officer of Nokia, said: "With this step we complete the latest stage of Nokia's transformation. We integrated the former Nokia Siemens Networks, divested our Devices & Services business, and have now reached agreement on a transaction for HERE that we believe is the best path forward for our shareholders, as well as the customers and employees of HERE. Going forward, we will focus on our planned combination with Alcatel-Lucent. Once that is complete, Nokia will be a renewed company, with a world-leading network technology and services business, as well as the licensing and innovation engine of Nokia Technologies."

    HERE is developing a location cloud that harnesses the power of data generated by vehicles, devices and infrastructure to deliver real-time, predictive and personalized location services. In the automotive industry, where it serves most of the world's leading automakers, its focus is on developing precise and accurate mapping as well as services that will enable an entirely new class of driver experiences, including highly automated driving. The company also serves the world's leading enterprises and Internet players, including Microsoft, Samsung and SAP, and offers highly rated apps to consumers using Android, iOS and Windows Phone.

    "I believe today's announcement is a very good outcome for HERE, its customers and employees. The new ownership structure of HERE will allow us to accelerate our strategy, further scale our business and fulfill our intent to become the leading location cloud company across industries," said HERE President Sean Fernback.

    HERE has been a separate operating and reportable segment for financial reporting purposes for Nokia with a non-IFRS operating profit of EUR 46 million on net sales of EUR 552 million for the first half of 2015, and a non-IFRS operating profit of EUR 31 million on net sales of EUR 971 million for the full year 2014. In reported terms, HERE generated an operating profit of EUR 28 million for the first half of 2015, and an operating loss of EUR 1 241 million for the full year 2014, with the latter including a EUR 1 209 million charge for the impairment of goodwill. At the end of June 2015, HERE had 6 454 employees. Nokia plans to report HERE as a discontinued operation from the third quarter of 2015 onwards. HERE will continue to operate as a business of Nokia until the closing of the transaction.

    Upon closing of the HERE transaction, Nokia will consist of two businesses: Nokia Networks and Nokia Technologies. Nokia Networks will continue to be a leading provider of broadband infrastructure software and services. Nokia Technologies will continue to provide advanced technology development and licensing. Nokia's proposed combination with Alcatel-Lucent is expected to close in the first half of 2016, subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals, and will create an innovation leader in next generation technology and services for an IP connected world.

    Nokia suspended its capital structure optimization program in conjunction with the announcement of the proposed combination with Alcatel-Lucent. As previously stated, Nokia intends to evaluate the resumption of a capital structure optimization program after the closing of the proposed Alcatel-Lucent transaction.
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Buyout group General Atlantic may also take a stake in Nokia's maps business, see Reuters. Excerpt:
    General Atlantic to take stake in HERE mapping business
    Buyout group General Atlantic is set to take a stake in mapping business HERE later this year, which a consortium of German premium carmakers has agreed to buy from Nokia (NOK1V.HE), a person familiar with the transaction said on Monday.

    The exact size of the stake has not yet been determined, the source said, adding that contracts on the sale of a HERE stake to the investor would be finalised in the coming weeks.

    Sources have said in the past that General Atlantic could take a 30 percent stake in HERE, but it remains unclear whether General Atlantic's stake will end up around that size.
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Here is a page with links to maps data version 00.02.54.223 for Nokia Maps, see:

http://mp107.xaa.pl/nokia_maps_v_00.02.54.223.html

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Nokia has completed the sale of its HERE business, see press release:

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Nokia completes the sale of its HERE business to a consortium of leading automotive companies

Espoo, Finland - Nokia announced today that it has completed the sale of its HERE digital mapping and location services business to a consortium of leading automotive companies, comprising AUDI AG, BMW Group and Daimler AG.

The transaction which was originally announced on August 3, 2015, valued HERE at an enterprise value of EUR 2.8 billion, subject to certain purchase price adjustments. Based on the current estimates of such adjustments, Nokia received net proceeds from the transaction of approximately EUR 2.55 billion at closing, which is consistent with Nokia's earlier estimated net proceeds of slightly above EUR 2.5 billion. Final adjustments will be made based on the verified closing balance sheet. As previously announced, Nokia expects to book a gain on the sale and a related release of cumulative foreign exchange translation differences totaling approximately EUR 1 billion as a result of the transaction.

The sale of HERE is the latest stage of Nokia's transformation ahead of its planned combination with Alcatel-Lucent, which is expected to close in the first quarter of 2016.

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Why isn't General Atlantic mentioned? What role plays General Atlantic here and how does it affect the ownership.

German automakers have made a good deal here. Navteq is the best mapping service. Last time I used my Tomtom it sent me into insane places as usual. Nokia maps usually gets the navigation right.
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Chinese investors buy stake in HERE, see Reuters:

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Two Chinese companies and Singapore's sovereign wealth fund GIC have agreed to buy a 10 percent stake in a digital mapping company controlled by Germany's leading carmakers to help them develop self-driving cars.

Chinese digital mapping company NavInfo (002405.SZ), internet group Tencent (0700.HK) and the Singapore fund will invest in mapping company HERE under a deal announced on Tuesday.

China is pushing the development of electric and autonomous cars and has made several high-profile investments in high tech companies in Europe.

German carmakers Audi (VOWG_p.DE), BMW (BMWG.DE) and Daimler (DAIGn.DE) will reduce their combined ownership of HERE by 10 percent, HERE and the buyers said in a statement.

China is on track to overtake the United States as the largest market for premium cars, a step which forces the German manufacturers to find alliances with local players in Asia to help them expand new services such as autonomous driving.

HERE and the Chinese consortium did not disclose financial details of the deal, which they expect to close in the first half of 2017.

Germany's luxury carmakers bought HERE from Nokia (NOKIA.HE) for 2.55 billion euros ($2.6 billion) last year to create a platform for developing self-driving cars and to secure their access to intelligent high-precision mapping systems.

The German carmakers have developed their own prototype autonomous vehicles and wanted to cut their dependence on mapping data from software giant Google (GOOGL.O) which has also developed a self-driving vehicle.

HERE needs capital to expand its network of high-precision maps quickly, and has been in discussion with potential partners including Amazon.com (AMZN.O), Microsoft (MSFT.O) and Bosch [ROBG.UL].

Self-driving cars need such maps to navigate, and use sensors to create services such as a system for monitoring road conditions and finding parking spaces by using vehicle-mounted cameras to scan the road ahead.

China has taken an interest in automotive technology investments to help develop its autonomous and self driving car know-how.

Earlier this month Chinese mobile operating systems company Thunder Software Technology Co Ltd (Thundersoft) (300496.SZ) agreed to acquire Finnish automotive software company Rightware for 64 million euros ($67 million).

Future Mobility, a Chinese automaker controlled by Tencent Holdings has poached autonomous driving personnel from Google, Daimler and BMW in the race to make self-driving cars.

There have also been high-profile takeover approaches for high-tech companies in Europe, particularly in Germany, though Chinese overtures have not always been welcome.

Home appliance maker Midea (000333.SZ) bought industrial robot firm Kuka (KU2G.DE) in a 4.5 billion euro deal in May, in what was the biggest Chinese deal for a German industrial technology company.

China's Fujian Grand Chip Investment Fund withdrew a 670 million euro bid for chip equipment maker Aixtron (AIXGn.DE) this month after the United States blocked the acquisition of its U.S. division on national security grounds and German authorities withdrew their approval.

Germany and China have become involved in an increasingly public dispute about access to each others' markets, with China complaining about unfair scrutiny of its acquisition targets in Germany, and Germany wanting reciprocal access to firms in China.

HERE also said it will form a joint venture with NavInfo to extend its products to China using NavInfo's data and services.

Tencent will use HERE's mapping and location platform services in its own products, both in China and internationally.

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