SYMBIAN OS SECTION
  -My-Symbian.com-
MAEMO  SECTION
-My-Maemo-
MEEGO  SECTION
-My-MeeGo-
SOFTWARE STORECONTACT


My-Symbian.com Forums

 
My-Symbian ~ My-Maemo ~ My-MeeGo
Symbian & Linux based Communicator and Smartphone Info Center
The Oldest Symbian Community Website - Since 1999
 
 Watched TopicsWatched Topics   FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   RulesRules   Log inLog in 
Lightweight, simplified version of the forumsMobile version
Jolla in 2017

Go to page
Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    My-Symbian ~ My-Maemo ~ My-MeeGo Forum Index -> Jolla Sailfish OS
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Michal Jerz
Admin/Founder/Owner
Admin/Founder/Owner



Joined: 01 Sep 1999

Posts: 29471

Thanks received:
1099 in 700 posts
Thanks given: 286

Location: Poland
Phone: Jolla, BB Z10, BB Passport, N950, N900, N8, Nexus 4 (Ubuntu Touch), Lumia 920

PostPosted: Thursday, 25.Jan.2018 13:51    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Quote:

I think that when the Russians have had enough and decide to pull the plug that will be the end of that.

Assuming that they don't have some other plans regarding it. Maybe they want the OS to be primarily for their government workers, secret services, etc. (to replace Android and iOS which they do not trust), and they don't care about commercial uses or even avoid them. If so, it would explain Jolla's apparent ALLERGY to any attempts to build a commercial ecosystem. Maybe all the end users were only needed as a huge world-wide group of beta-testers - not only free but actually paying for being guinea pigs.

P.S. Have you noticed how they always talk about having some undisclosed, allegedly serious, Chinese/Taiwanese investors, but there doesn't seem to be a single Chinese member of their board? As opposed to 4 Russians, among who Beryozkin (or whatever his name is) alone is said to own some 60+% of Jolla shares, and the other 3 surely also have some.

==

As for what Russians use their IT products and services for, have you seen today's news? It's been talked about for some time, but it has just been stated by yet another source.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/antivirus-firm-kaspersky-lab-r uled-by-russian-spies-2ghtw38ql
Back to top
Michal Jerz
Admin/Founder/Owner
Admin/Founder/Owner



Joined: 01 Sep 1999

Posts: 29471

Thanks received:
1099 in 700 posts
Thanks given: 286

Location: Poland
Phone: Jolla, BB Z10, BB Passport, N950, N900, N8, Nexus 4 (Ubuntu Touch), Lumia 920

PostPosted: Thursday, 01.Mar.2018 07:07    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Quote:

Zipperglobal seems to really be the way Jolla will try to enable monetization for developers and their apps.

So.... three months since then, has anyone heard about it ever again?
Back to top
naytsyrhc
Site supporter
Site supporter



Joined: 21 Sep 2006

Posts: 916

Thanks received:
44 in 44 posts
Thanks given: 115

Location: Hamburg, Germany
Phone: History [/// R380s, SE P800, SE P910i, SE M600i, Nokia E71, Nokia N9, Jolla 1], Current [Sony Xperia X Compact SFOS]

PostPosted: Friday, 23.Mar.2018 02:07    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Actually yes. I joined the telegram groups (announcements and community) and the later is quite busy. They did start a whitelist program and looked for 5000 test persons who are supposed to do beta tests from April on. They announced to have a functional prototype and currently have to rebrand/name their tokens.
Back to top
Michal Jerz
Admin/Founder/Owner
Admin/Founder/Owner



Joined: 01 Sep 1999

Posts: 29471

Thanks received:
1099 in 700 posts
Thanks given: 286

Location: Poland
Phone: Jolla, BB Z10, BB Passport, N950, N900, N8, Nexus 4 (Ubuntu Touch), Lumia 920

PostPosted: Wednesday, 04.Apr.2018 18:40    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Well, what can I say. BlackBerry World has just been switched to free apps only. As I wrote many times, it was the last opportunity to attract some developers leaving BB10. Now everyone is busy porting apps to Android and unlikely to bother with Jolla anymore. Maybe those few who decide to stick with Qt and use Qt for Android (which has seriously matured by now) will preseve some relatively easy path to port apps to Jolla, but all those (probably an overwhelming majority) who rewrite their apps from scratch in Android Java will be lost for good.
Back to top
MeowTseDong
Forum Regular
Forum Regular

Please add your avatar!

Joined: 29 May 2014

Posts: 163

Thanks received:
9 in 9 posts
Thanks given: 2


Phone: Nokia

PostPosted: Monday, 09.Apr.2018 10:23    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

They haven't announced much recently other than "Sailfish 3" without really explaining what's new, only "regional licensing" what benefit that now provides. Almost nothing about technological improvements.

The only interesting new device was the Gemini PDA. This is more a PDA but put dual display on that thing so that you can you it as a slab phone as well, then it would have been awesome.
Back to top
ABCDKE
Forum Regular
Forum Regular



Joined: 25 May 2013

Posts: 58

Thanks received:
4 in 4 posts
Thanks given: 26

Location: Yugoslavia
Phone: Xperia X Compact

PostPosted: Thursday, 12.Apr.2018 16:34    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Michal, so what are your plans for the future, now that your primary platform is dead?
Back to top
Michal Jerz
Admin/Founder/Owner
Admin/Founder/Owner



Joined: 01 Sep 1999

Posts: 29471

Thanks received:
1099 in 700 posts
Thanks given: 286

Location: Poland
Phone: Jolla, BB Z10, BB Passport, N950, N900, N8, Nexus 4 (Ubuntu Touch), Lumia 920

PostPosted: Thursday, 12.Apr.2018 23:14    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Well.... considering that Jolla keeps showing developers their middle finger, it looks that Android is the only option left. So I am going to start porting my applications to Android soon.

First I'll investigate how stable and usable Qt for Android is, and if it turns out to be a reliable and fully functional option then I'll use it, as it would be the quickest and easiest way.

Otherwise, I will have to start porting my apps to Android Java, which will take much longer and require much more work as it'll take learning not only Android APIs but also Java itself, which I've never used.

Generally speaking, I am NOT excited at all about having to go Android which just isn't my pair of shoes, but - sadly - there's nothing else left to do.
Back to top
MeowTseDong
Forum Regular
Forum Regular

Please add your avatar!

Joined: 29 May 2014

Posts: 163

Thanks received:
9 in 9 posts
Thanks given: 2


Phone: Nokia

PostPosted: Thursday, 12.Apr.2018 23:38    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

What about iOS, Qt is also ported to iOS so that it can work with iPhones as well. Are you ruling that out?
Back to top
Michal Jerz
Admin/Founder/Owner
Admin/Founder/Owner



Joined: 01 Sep 1999

Posts: 29471

Thanks received:
1099 in 700 posts
Thanks given: 286

Location: Poland
Phone: Jolla, BB Z10, BB Passport, N950, N900, N8, Nexus 4 (Ubuntu Touch), Lumia 920

PostPosted: Monday, 16.Apr.2018 19:02    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

I'm not sure if Apple accepts Qt apps in their app store. Besides, I've heard that their terms of sale are awful. For instance, it is up to the app vendor to handle VAT.
Back to top
naytsyrhc
Site supporter
Site supporter



Joined: 21 Sep 2006

Posts: 916

Thanks received:
44 in 44 posts
Thanks given: 115

Location: Hamburg, Germany
Phone: History [/// R380s, SE P800, SE P910i, SE M600i, Nokia E71, Nokia N9, Jolla 1], Current [Sony Xperia X Compact SFOS]

PostPosted: Tuesday, 08.May.2018 23:33    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Michal, I know you are dissapointed by Jolla and they didn't treat you (and other developers) well in the past. But I would still give it a try or say a second chance. I have the impression they do listen to active developers. The community meetings seem to have some impact. They want to address a lot of the complaints from community on their road to SFOS 3. I think you could have positive impact, if you are willing to participate.
Back to top
Michal Jerz
Admin/Founder/Owner
Admin/Founder/Owner



Joined: 01 Sep 1999

Posts: 29471

Thanks received:
1099 in 700 posts
Thanks given: 286

Location: Poland
Phone: Jolla, BB Z10, BB Passport, N950, N900, N8, Nexus 4 (Ubuntu Touch), Lumia 920

PostPosted: Wednesday, 09.May.2018 23:43    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Quote:

Michal, I know you are dissapointed by Jolla and they didn't treat you (and other developers) well in the past. But I would still give it a try or say a second chance.

There is a very simple way they can show their support for developers: enable paid apps. That's all it takes. And they know it, for they were told it thousands of times. So I'm afraid that I have nothing new to tell them... And even if I repeated it yet another time, what would I hear? Same story as what Cybette said in 2014, i.e. "we're working on it but it's difficult and takes time"?

I don't need absolutely anything else from them but a place to offer my apps. The day they provide it, they can count me in.

---

P.S. The best example of how support for paid apps is important for software development is the BlackBerry World store. The day they stopped supporting paid apps was the last day ANY new app was uploaded to it. The moment it became a free apps only store (on March 30), it actually became a museum of old apps. Not a single new release, even those cr*ppy spam RSS and web based "apps" stopped coming.
Back to top

The following users say THANKS! for this post: Casanunda

Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    My-Symbian ~ My-Maemo ~ My-MeeGo Forum Index -> Jolla Sailfish OS All times are GMT + 2 Hours

Go to page
Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Page 5 of 5

 
Jump to:  
View previous topic :: View next topic

Similar Topics on this forum
Topic Author Forum Replies Posted
No new posts Spam from Jolla Michal Jerz Jolla Sailfish OS 6 Wednesday, 28.Jun.2017 03:15 View latest post
No new posts Jolla secures new financing for Sailfish OS development BentL Jolla Sailfish OS 1 Tuesday, 03.May.2016 11:17 View latest post
No new posts Jolla Adventures Kleuter Jolla Sailfish OS 0 Friday, 13.Nov.2015 19:30 View latest post
No new posts First wave of Jolla tablets arrive, further delay for rest Casanunda Jolla Sailfish OS 13 Friday, 09.Oct.2015 17:23 View latest post
No new posts What is Jolla up to? MeowTseDong Jolla Sailfish OS 5 Friday, 21.Aug.2015 21:48 View latest post
No new posts Jolla splitting into two companies and changing management N/A Jolla Sailfish OS 69 Wednesday, 08.Jul.2015 09:36 View latest post
No new posts What are those partnerships of Jolla in fact? Kleuter Jolla Sailfish OS 35 Saturday, 25.Apr.2015 13:55 View latest post
No new posts Sailfish OS 2.0 & Jolla Tablet on MWC Casanunda Jolla Sailfish OS 15 Tuesday, 03.Mar.2015 23:11 View latest post
No new posts The blog from Marc Dillon about the Jolla plans for 2015 spyder81 Jolla Sailfish OS 10 Monday, 26.Jan.2015 15:55 View latest post
No new posts official Jolla batteries in Jolla store Casanunda Jolla Sailfish OS 15 Tuesday, 09.Dec.2014 14:56 View latest post

Posting/discussing/exchanging warez/cracks/serial numbers/links to web sites offering such resources and/or any other illegal content
is FORBIDDEN on this forum and results in an immediate BAN.


Symbian and all Symbian-based marks and logos are trade marks of Symbian Software Limited.
This website is not in any way endorsed or supported by Symbian Software Limited.    (C) 2001 My-Symbian.com All Rights Reserved