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PostPosted: Tuesday, 26.Aug.2008 10:38    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

ceroberts75 wrote:
maybe michal or bentl have some kind of explaination for us to understand?

The E71 has a newer version of firmware than the one in the E90. So the E71 firmware is more optimized and debugged than the E90 firmware.

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PostPosted: Thursday, 28.Aug.2008 01:41    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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The E71 has a newer version of firmware than the one in the E90. So the E71 firmware is more optimized and debugged than the E90 firmware.

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Another thing that helps the performance of the E71 is demand paging.
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PostPosted: Sunday, 07.Sep.2008 09:14    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

My E71 is more unstable than the latest firmware of E90. Stability is an issue in E71.

I like using my E90 more now because I realized that E90 offers much more than E71. The dedicated graphic card in E90 renders better video playing and gaming.
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PostPosted: Sunday, 07.Sep.2008 10:10    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

wow, really.

when i used the e71 for about 2 weeks while my e90 was at nokia, i thought it actually ran much smoother. but it hurt my eyes to use and keys were too small.


i felt like the cliche' pix of two people running at each other through a field of flowers and weeds until they finaly catch each other and spin in circles in disbelief when i finaly recieved my commi in the mail.

---then i realized they sent me the 7.4 firmware and had to update it to 210, and then it crashed! Razz but, the thrill is still alive my friend! still alive!

and it was with mixed emotion that i sent my e71 back to dell.

joy & happiness!
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PostPosted: Thursday, 11.Sep.2008 03:44    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

I've retired my E90 and use my E71-2 exclusively. I haven't had any instability issues. No reboots in the month I've owned it. Though I have fat fingers I can still type as fast on the E71 as I did on the E90/
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PostPosted: Tuesday, 17.Mar.2009 15:12    Post subject: Re: Nokia E90 vs Nokia E71   Reply with quote   

Hello,
I wanted to buy a new Phone.I have shortlisted two phones from my end.Either a E90 or E71.
Kindly guide me which one should i buy.I use SMS's lot and am confortable with T9 which increases my typing speed.Also do take pictures a lot if have forgot my camera.
Long talktime needed and also use Office functions which are easier to use in Nokia compared to Sony Ericcson P1i which i am using currently.
Kindly guide me on the same.

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I noticed that E71 has faster CPU clock than E90, does that mean E71 is going to be faster than E90?

Nokia E71: CPU Clock Rate: 369 MHz
Nokia E90: CPU Clock Rate: 332 MHz

What gives? I paid so much for e90 only to find out the processing power is less than e71 Question

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PostPosted: Tuesday, 17.Mar.2009 15:56    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Office functions are obviously better on the E90 due to its much larger and higher resolution screen, as well as full keyboard.

E90's CPU, even though clocked at lower frequency (330 MHz vs. 369 MHz) is actually a FASTER one, because it's a dual-core processor, including a separate core to handle all telephony and network functions, thus leaving the main core free to handle applications and the operating system, while the E71's CPU has to do everything using its single core, which in many cases turns out to be slower, despite higher CPU clock. E90's OMAP2420 CPU also has hardware graphics/video acceleration, which is what E71's Freescale CPU doesn't have.

While both phones have 3.2 Mpix cameras, the E90 records VGA video at 30 fps, while the E71 only supports 15 fps. This is one of the benefits of E90's more advanced CPU.
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PostPosted: Friday, 20.Mar.2009 09:06    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Michal Jerz,
Hi,
Can you just let me know which phone out of E 71 and E 90 should i purchase.My main requirements are long battery life a good camera and a good(loud) sound quality for music and to hear the ringtones when the phone rings.I often use my ofice functions and have also started using net on the phone.
Kindly let me know thanks.
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PostPosted: Friday, 20.Mar.2009 09:43    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

maxfighter wrote:
Can you just let me know which phone out of E 71 and E 90 should i purchase.

The E90 certainly fits your requirements, but you should really try to have both phones in your hands to get a feelling for the differences in form factor before you make a decision.

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PostPosted: Friday, 20.Mar.2009 16:28    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

id have to agree w/bent.

Good idea to try and get both in your hands because just due to the fact they are both s60v3 doesnt mean they feel the ssame when trying to use them or 'see' what youre looking at.
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PostPosted: Friday, 20.Mar.2009 18:26    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

I have both the E71 and the E90. After some prolonged time with both devices my conclusion is that I prefer the E90.

You just can't beat the E90's large screen and keyboard.
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PostPosted: Friday, 20.Mar.2009 19:46    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Most of us here have the E90, so we may be biaised. If you ask iif the E90 is a brilliant phone most will say yes, and elaborate.
But I am afraid that without knowing all your circumstances it is impossible to tell you if such or such is what you need.
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PostPosted: Sunday, 05.Apr.2009 10:46    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

I have E90, E71 and E75. E90 is perfect to use in most of my duties, but it's too big in size. E71 is the best of these phones to browse web and use widsets. E75 is the best compromise of those two phones. E75 is fast, its small and it have as large and even better keyboard than E90.

I newer learned to use E71 keyboard and T9. I use E75 without T9 the only thing is to learn use numeric keys. When I used E71 I had E90 whole time with me as reserve. I never wrote longer documents with E71.

E75 was perfect to me from the beginning (about for four weeks ago). I dont use the automatic screen turning, cos it seems to make phone slower and somtimes it turns the screen by itself.

The outer keyboard is too small and It's hard to find right keys. Web browsing and navigating are easy to handle with outer keyboard. It's apparently easier also to make software to this device when you have only one screen and one resolution.
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PostPosted: Sunday, 12.Apr.2009 10:11    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Genuine questions...

Is it possible to hack/port the E71 or E75's firmware onto the E90? I assume it's not easily achievable otherwise people would be doing it.

What technical issues currently prevent inter-device firmware ports from happening? Is the E90 specifically restricted somehow?

And will the open sourcing of Symbian make future firmwares more portable across devices? Could the E90 run future Symbian OSs or is this unlikely?
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PostPosted: Sunday, 12.Apr.2009 12:38    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

If we had ROM cooking on the Symbian platform there wouldn´t be any problems to port the E75 features to the E90. The difference is only some applications and a really easy way for Nokia would be to provide them as downloads.

On the WM platform (HTC devices) it´s easy to solve those problems. Just use a Kitchen and cook your own ROM. A Symbian Kitchen would be perfect because that would mean "one device to rule them all" - i.e an E-series device running everything from the N-series or a N-series device running everything from the E-series.

I think the thing who stops ROM cooking on a Nokia is the lack of tools for it. Technically it´s possible - but there´s no Kitchens and I think the only way to obtain some tools would be a "leak" from Nokias inner departments.

The lack of porting applications from for example E75 to the E90 is a big reason for me to use the WM platform. I have for example transformed my X1 to a HTC Rhodium (with some X1 components intact) and are running the new TouchFLO 3D/Manilla V3 on it. If the same possibilities was available on the S60 - or Nokia atleast decided to use the same FW and the same applications in all E-series devices based on the same hardware - everything would be fine.

My own ROM based on the latest system components are faster and more stable than the Sony Ericsson official one. And the ability to port features from other devices based on the same HW and CPU are very nice. Even if the manufacturer decides to withdraw support for a device - that device can be saved with ROM cooking where new features and bug fixes are released. That means a longer life. The E90 is very good but Nokia´s methods with releasing a device as the E75 without releasing a new FW with those apps is a drawback. I understand Nokia want´s to sell new devices but it would be better if they kept the E90 as a flagship with a "refresh" (new FW and possible some apps) until the E92 is out.

Before someone shouts "Apple are releasing new FWs to older devices" I say: it´s nothing compared to the ROM cooking on the XDA-Developers. Instead of releasing firmwares with multitasking and that sort of "news" (standard features on other platforms) the WM cooking brings really good improvements. And now I´m running different UIs on the same device (it´s good with UIs made for specific needs). Try that on an iPhone.Wink

The other platform I know where advanced hacking and cooking is available is the Maemo in the Internet Tablets.

It´s the Windows Mobile (HTC/XDA-Developers) or Maemo which can provide the possibility for "device transforming" and back porting of new features to older devices.
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