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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 02:58    Post subject: The Evolution of Maemo   Reply with quote   

Hi all,

Not sure if it is of interest to anyone but I just wrote a review comparing a few specific points between the N900 and the N810 (which I just purchased).

You can read it here:
http://campusainteractive.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/the-evolution-of-ma emo/

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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 08:21    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Nice Article Danny ! Informative read ! Thank you !
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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 09:41    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Actually that was interesting!
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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 11:23    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Hi Daniel,

An extremely informative and well written review/comparison. I would love to re-print it here on My-Maemo, of course with full credits and a link to the source. What do you think?
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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 16:51    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Hi Michal,

Of course - you are welcome to reprint it here.

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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 18:54    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Great piece, thanks for sharing, Daniel - btw what make is your Silicon case?
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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 20:58    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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Great piece, thanks for sharing, Daniel - btw what make is your Silicon case?


Hmm.. I honestly don't remember - I picked it up off eBay. It's definitely a good case though. I originally tried those painted plastic covers but found the clips on them broke way too often. I'll try to dig up that info if I can.

I've had this one for around 6-7 months now and it has held up exceptionally well.

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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 21:55    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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Of course - you are welcome to reprint it here.

Great, thank you!
I should have it ready within an hour or two.
It's a really great comparison - something I was planning to write ever since I got the N900 but never had time for it. I still own the N810 and I sold the N800 only recently.
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PostPosted: Thursday, 30.Dec.2010 22:12    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

P.S. You noticed a lot of similarities between the N810 and Series 80 and it's true.

Maemo is Hildon based. Hildon was originally created for the Communicators and was going to replace Series 80, so in a large degree it was based on Series 80 'concept'. Nokia had a Hildon Communicator project and nearly ready Hildon based Communicators in 2003.

Why they cancelled that project has always been completely beyond me. A Communicator with the Hildon UI in 2003-2004 would have been a KILLER.

Nokia then used Hildon (in slightly modified form) as "Series 90" in the 7700 and 7710 touch screen phones (which it again killed and fully switched to S60 on Symbian), and then "ported" it to Linux and used on it for the first time in the 770 Internet Tablet. And then in the N800 and N810, with consecutive changes.

I think dropping Hildon on Symbian was Nokia's biggest mistake in their history. If there was a device with E90 hardware and design but with Hildon on Symbian instead of that crippled S60 then we'd be at completely different point now.
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PostPosted: Friday, 31.Dec.2010 12:13    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Done. The review is now available here:

http://my-maemo.com/reviews/review_n900_n810.php
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PostPosted: Friday, 31.Dec.2010 22:14    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

great job daniel!
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PostPosted: Monday, 03.Jan.2011 12:32    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

@Michał

I have general question about Maemo devices.
I'm still stuck with E90. The only reason I didn't go for N900 was that it doesn't have any dedicated Office package (like quick office on e90), and that probably keyboard is limited when comparing to E90.
How do you deal with that ? Do you work with excel spreadsheets, if so what software are you using ?
Do input of foreign characters like polish diacritics is possible and easy on N900 ?
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PostPosted: Monday, 03.Jan.2011 14:33    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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I'm still stuck with E90. The only reason I didn't go for N900 was that it doesn't have any dedicated Office package (like quick office on e90), and that probably keyboard is limited when comparing to E90.
How do you deal with that ? Do you work with excel spreadsheets, if so what software are you using ?

The N900 DOES have Office package. Documents To Go Premium lets you edit & create Microsoft Word & Excel files, and the newest version also comes with PowerPoint editor. It's a really great and fully functional Office suite.

There are also other free alternatives, like e.g. GNUmeric (spreadsheet application) or FreOffice (aka KOffice) (the newest versions provide edit function as well).

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Do input of foreign characters like polish diacritics is possible and easy on N900 ?

Polish characters unfortunately aren't that easy to type because they are NOT assigned directly to the hardware keyboard. You need to press the Blue arrow key and then the Sym/Ctrl key which shows an on-screen table containing all Polish characters and select from there. So typing text with Polish characters actually requires a combination of hardware keyboard and on-screen keyboard usage. Not perfect but I somehow got used to it.

On the other hand, editing the layout of the hardware keyboard is very easy and all one needs to do is to edit /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 file. By editing this file you can easily assign Polish characters to e.g. a Chr (Blue arrow) key or to the Sym key so that you get "¶" when you press Chr+s, etc. (i.e. like on the E90). I'll create such a remapped hardware keyboard when I find some time for this, I just need to decide which key combinations would be the best and not conflicting too much with the current assignments of special characters.
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PostPosted: Monday, 03.Jan.2011 16:14    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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Do you work with excel spreadsheets, if so what software are you using ?

The N900 DOES have Office package. Documents To Go Premium lets you edit & create Microsoft Word & Excel files, and the newest version also comes with PowerPoint editor. It's a really great and fully functional Office suite.

There are also other free alternatives, like e.g. GNUmeric (spreadsheet application) or FreOffice (aka KOffice) (the newest versions provide edit function as well).

I have used all three - gnumeric is very powerful and I have yet to find a function that excel has that gnumeric doesn't - though I have not tried very large/complex spreadsheets or tested macros. Gnumerics user interface is not really optimised for touch, though as long as you are prepared to use the stylus you can navigate around fine.

DocstoGo is great as a viewer, or starting a new sheet from scratch, is more touch friendly, and integrates with the email client. However, I've had trouble editing existing spreadsheets that I've been sent by email.

I am not impressed by FreOffice - word application interface completely unintuitive - I could not even properly capitalise!

Between docstogo and gnumeric I cover off most situations where I need to edit office docs on the move.
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PostPosted: Monday, 03.Jan.2011 16:42    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Really nice article, and informative! Also, I never knew Hildon was scheduled for the Communicator range. S60 was always terrible (UIQ was so much better, why didn't SE and Nokia play together and develop UIQ4? I still wonder what would have happened, UIQ4 looked really nice on the previews I saw).
I agree with Danny about Maemo's UI, it's is pretty good and Meemo does look to be a step backwards. Time will see if it's another mistake, although I think Nokia has finally realised they're going to have to make a go of Meemo and devote significant resources to it, or give up on the proprietary smart phone UI and become a lessor partner with Google or Microsoft. So I think one way or another they'll make it work.

Sometimes big companies do make strange decisions - dropping Maemo so fast was a big mistake imo. It could have been developed for a year or so, and interim phones brought out until Meego was polished and ready. Sony Ericsson ditching UIQ 4 just when touch screen mobiles took off, and now being wedded to Google, is another example.
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