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PostPosted: Thursday, 23.May.2013 19:28    Post subject: Qt for Tizen released   Reply with quote   

Qt for Tizen has been released. It's a fully community-written port of Qt 5, so it does not come from the Tizen itself, but I guess it's better than nothing...

Version 1.0 Alpha 1 is now available, and more details can be found, here:

http://qt-project.org/wiki/Tizen

It remains to be seen if Tizen will allow Qt-based apps in their app store. If not then it'd remain a platform for personal use and for applications distributed outside of official channels...
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PostPosted: Wednesday, 10.Jul.2013 14:12    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Samsung has launched a US$4 million Tizen app challenge with prizes from US$30,000 to US$200,000. https://developer.tizen.org/contests/tizen-app-challenge
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PostPosted: Wednesday, 10.Jul.2013 19:30    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Talk about throwing money at the problem of apps availability for a new platform....
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PostPosted: Wednesday, 10.Jul.2013 23:20    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Maybe this is the next great thing after android. If they get a lot of quality applications then it's only a matter of how the platform itself is going to be and feel. I believe it has to be quality in order to win when there are only 12 prizes. I am surprised that the games category have higher prizes than non-game category though.

*Edit: Didn't understand that it was each of the subcategories that had 6 prizes each for a total of 54 prizes.


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PostPosted: Thursday, 11.Jul.2013 00:56    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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Talk about throwing money at the problem of apps availability for a new platform....

This is a good example of a company that CARES to have own, native applications on start, rather than just Android ports.

So how can Jolla win this competition if Samsung runs huge contests with huge prices while Jolla does not even make a proper SDK available and still keeps the screen resolution secret, which simply disallows making any applications for Sailfish OS?

This only confirms every single word I said on the Jolla forum. Samsung will soon have millions of Tizen users while Jolla will remain a niche platform.

Even if Jolla is much smaller and much poorer than Samsung and cannot offer running such contests and providing such prices, they should be at least making it POSSIBLE to create native software for their platform. They still don't do even just that.
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PostPosted: Thursday, 11.Jul.2013 05:20    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Samsung may be rich but I think throwing US$4 million at a contest is overkill. How much does it take to motivate a developer? Won't prizes from $10,000 to $30,000 be enough? The extra money can be used to buy apps from software houses like HD games and productivity apps which won't otherwise be developed for Tizen. Microsoft reportedly paying developers $100,000 or more to build apps for WP8.


So will you be entering the contest, Michal?
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PostPosted: Thursday, 11.Jul.2013 08:31    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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Samsung may be rich but I think throwing US$4 million at a contest is overkill.

You're right. It's just that I am not sure what's worse: Samsung throwing millions at a contest or Jolla not even disclosing the screen resolution...

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So will you be entering the contest, Michal?

No, because they don't accept Qt applications. Only Tizen native (which I am not familiar with and don't have time to spend on learning it) or HTML5.
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PostPosted: Thursday, 11.Jul.2013 12:36    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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Samsung may be rich but I think throwing US$4 million at a contest is overkill. How much does it take to motivate a developer?

My first reaction was that so high prizes are scary. I still have a hard time understanding that the development cost of some applications are above 100 000$.

I do however understand that the development cost of openoffice and similar complex applications are much higher. Openoffice is available in easydebian on maemo and harmattan.

I think it would be better to have 100-1000 prizes and rather have a lot of them be much smaller. Some of which chosen randomly for every application that meets some minimum requirements. 54 prizes is acceptable, but 6 in each category seem like only big companies or very competent developers are able to do.
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PostPosted: Thursday, 11.Jul.2013 15:32    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

Michal Jerz wrote:
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No, because they don't accept Qt applications. Only Tizen native (which I am not familiar with and don't have time to spend on learning it) or HTML5.


You mean US$120,000 is not enough motivation to learn to code for Tizen? Enter your SunCalc, StarFinder, MoonCalc or Geocoder and I'll be shocked if you don't win at least one prize.
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You mean US$120,000 is not enough motivation to learn to code for Tizen? Enter your SunCalc, StarFinder, MoonCalc or Geocoder and I'll be shocked if you don't win at least one prize.

It's not that easy to learn native Tizen development. It's very different, there are different APIs, etc. I guess it'd take weeks to get familiar with it, let alone the actual porting. An easier way would be to use HTML5, but it would also mean an almost complete rewrite of each application.

And as far as I know such contests, utilities like mine rarely win them. They usually select popular applications (the ones that everyone wants to have, rather than specialistic tools only for those interested in e.g. astronomy).
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PostPosted: Thursday, 11.Jul.2013 20:23    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

I think your GeoCoder has general usage for people who like traveling, and there are quite a lot of them in the rich countries. I don't know if most people, or the competitions judges think like me though. I would never have given more valuable prizes for games than utilities, but Samsung do, so I guess I am out of touch with what the general public want.

I think there is a chance. I would say you could compete in three non-game-categories. I would say GeoCoder is a travel utility(ie belong in both, I would choose travel as primary), and Biorhythms would be more entertainment and less utility, while the rest are utilities.

You do however know a lot more about how complex your applications are. Calculators are relatively simple, yours are way beyond that. I don't even feel comfortable looking at the example codes in in eclipse so I understand very well that it will take time and effort to familiarize with and later rewrite the whole thing into a new API.
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PostPosted: Friday, 12.Jul.2013 07:26    Post subject:   Reply with quote   

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I would never have given more valuable prizes for games than utilities, but Samsung do

... and they give higher prizes for HTML5 apps than for native apps. How bizarre.

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You do however know a lot more about how complex your applications are. Calculators are relatively simple, yours are way beyond that. I don't even feel comfortable looking at the example codes in in eclipse so I understand very well that it will take time and effort to familiarize with and later rewrite the whole thing into a new API.

The problem is that learning native coding for Tizen would probably take me as long as the time left until the end of competition, let alone the actual porting (or actually re-writing from scratch). So the only remaining option is HTML5, which is easy but somehow not exciting for me at all.

Why didn't a platform that originated from MeeGo include Qt by default is completely beyond me.
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